On August 19, Taft Columbus partner Dave Thomas hosted the season 15 premiere of the “Trial Tested” podcast for the American College of Trial Lawyers. In the episode, Thomas sat down with Judge A. Howard Matz, former U.S. District Judge for the Central District of California, to explore the concept of judicial independence – what it means in practice and why it matters to the rule of law.

Judge Matz also reflected on lessons learned from the courtroom, including the importance of listening, civility, and giving advocates room to do their jobs.

To listen to the full episode, visit here.

Thomas is a fellow in The American College of Trial Lawyers and is listed in Chambers USA as a leading lawyer in white-collar crime and government investigations. As a partner in Taft’s Compliance, Investigations, and White Collar Defense practice group, he advises and represents companies, executives, public officials, health care providers, and other professionals subject to state and federal investigations and prosecutions.